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		<title>Do language classes work?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some language learner bloggers have been discussing Tim Ferriss &#8220;Why language classes don&#8217;t work&#8221; article. Street-Smart Language Learning, Aspiring Polyglot and Confessions of a Language Addict gave their opinions on the matter, so I think now it&#8217;s my turn.
I recently started teaching English here in Brazil. The school I work for has an 18 months [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-115" title="classroom-does-it-work" src="http://thelanguagelearningblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/classroom-does-it-work-300x225.jpg" alt="classroom-does-it-work-300x225 Do language classes work?" width="239" height="191" />Some language learner bloggers have been discussing <a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/09/22/why-language-classes-dont-work-how-to-cut-classes-and-double-your-learning-rate-plus-madrid-update/" target="_blank">Tim Ferriss &#8220;Why language classes don&#8217;t work&#8221;</a> article. <a href="http://www.streetsmartlanguagelearning.com/2009/01/tim-ferriss-and-language-learning.html" target="_blank">Street-Smart Language Learning</a>, <a href="http://aspiringpolyglotblog.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/why-language-classes-dont-work/" target="_blank">Aspiring Polyglot</a> and <a href="http://gbarto.com/multilingua/confessions/2009/01/when-language-classes-can-work.html" target="_blank">Confessions of a Language Addict</a> gave their opinions on the matter, so I think now i<span style="font-size: inherit;">t&#8217;</span>s my turn.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">I recently started teaching English here in Brazil. The school I work for has a<span style="font-size: inherit;">n</span> 18 months program which aims <span style="font-size: inherit;">at</span><span style="font-size: inherit;">in</span> the method, to be responsible for our students and to give shows instead of simple classes. Excessive grammar and translations are not allowed at all. The students should like you, like the class, like the language, and have fun! If you can do it, you&#8217;re in, if you can&#8217;t, you&#8217;re out. The school and its method (fluency in 18 months) are relatively new here. English courses usually take four or more years and aim <span style="font-size: inherit;">at</span> &#8220;language proficiency&#8221;, which I assume is much more than fluency. Without going to<span style="font-size: inherit;">o</span> deep in<span style="font-size: inherit;">to</span> my school<span style="font-size: inherit;">&#8217;s</span> methodology and its effectiveness, let me throw <span style="font-size: inherit;">out</span> th<span style="font-size: inherit;">is</span> question: Is it possible to achieve basic fluency inside <span style="font-size: inherit;">a</span> classroom?</span> fluency. You&#8217;re not allowed to use Portuguese inside the classroom, everything should be taught and explained in English. Sometimes it&#8217;s really difficult to explain certain words or expressions, but you just have to find a way to do it. At the initial meeting with other teachers and the school manager, we were told to believe</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">I would say<span style="font-size: inherit;">, y</span>es, you can achieve basic fluency inside <span style="font-size: inherit;">a</span> classroom. <span style="font-size: inherit;">By</span> basic fluency<span style="font-size: inherit;">,</span> I mean being able to understand native English and communicate at least at a daily conversation<span style="font-size: inherit;">al</span> level. When students come to my school, they are amazed by the idea that in a year and a half they are going to be understanding and speaking English. &#8220;Hey dude, in June 2010 I&#8217;ll know English! Awesome!&#8221; is what <span style="font-size: inherit;">mainly</span> motivates them. I <span style="font-size: inherit;">partly</span> disagree <span style="font-size: inherit;">with</span> Tim Ferris. Classes tend not t<span style="font-size: inherit;">o</span> work, because students are lazy and teacher<span style="font-size: inherit;">s</span> <span style="font-size: inherit;">neither</span> know how to teach nor how to learn a language. But it does not mean classes can&#8217;t work at all. There are many people that have learned languages inside classrooms, so in some way classes <span style="font-size: inherit;">must</span> work.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">In order to work, I think some requirements <span style="font-size: inherit;">have to</span> be <span style="font-size: inherit;">met</span> inside and outside the classroom&#8230;</span></p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">A good and motivated teacher</span></h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">Perhaps that&#8217;s why most classes don&#8217;t work. A good teacher isn&#8217;t easy to find. Universities don&#8217;t prepare students to be good teachers. University teacher<span style="font-size: inherit;">s themselves</span> usually aren&#8217;t good teachers. They are good researchers and thinkers. But teaching is a practical, not <span style="font-size: inherit;">a</span> theoretical skill. You don&#8217;t learn how to teach by reading books or simulating classes. You learn how to teach <span style="font-size: inherit;">by</span> teaching real classes over and over again. If classrooms can work, it absolutely requires very very good teachers, who know their subject and <span style="font-size: inherit;">k</span>now how to teach it properly. Remember <a href="http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/" target="_blank">AJATT</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017922" target="_blank">Outliers</a><span style="font-size: inherit;">to</span> teaching.</span> 10000 hours thing? The same applies</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">Good materials </span></h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">Good material really can help. <span style="font-size: inherit;">However</span>, I think good materials are <span style="font-size: inherit;">those</span> materials that the students can use outside the classroom. Inside the classrooms, the focus should be on the teacher. Even though I just started teaching, I often find myself asking the students to close their books and pay attention to me. I want them to look at me, listen to me. I want them to understand what I am trying to say verbally and no<span style="font-size: inherit;">n-</span>verbally. The good materials are going to be used at home, for self study. Perhaps a combination of motivating/fun classes with a set of very good materials for self-study could work very well!</span></p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">Motivated students</span></h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;">This depends on students and  teachers. Every teacher want<span style="font-size: inherit;">s</span> motivated students of course. But what to do with the unmotivated ones? Stimulate them! You can&#8217;t motivate <span style="font-size: inherit;">someone else</span>, since motivation comes from within yourself, but you can stimulate them so that they get motivated. It <span style="font-size: inherit;">is</span> easy to blame students for being unmotivated, but teachers should remember that their role is much more th<span style="font-size: inherit;">a</span>n simply throw<span style="font-size: inherit;">ing</span> their <span style="font-size: inherit;">course material at</span> the students and expect<span style="font-size: inherit;">ing</span> them to learn <span style="font-size: inherit;">it</span>. As I said before, teaching is practical and entails many different abilities.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: inherit;">In c</span>onclusi<span style="font-size: inherit;">on</span>, I believe classroom<span style="font-size: inherit;">s</span> can work in the same way that self-study methods can work. At the same time, classrooms <span style="font-size: inherit;">will fail for the same reasons that</span> self-study methods <span style="font-size: inherit;">will fail</span>. E<span style="font-size: inherit;">very</span> one has his own <span style="font-size: inherit;">manner</span> of learning, although certain principles are <span style="font-size: inherit;">universal</span>. The hard task is to find and apply these principles, be it inside or outside the classroom.</span></p>
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